Navy C 9 to HI

Author Message   Roger Curry Senior Member Username: Rcurryastro Post Number: 835 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.70.195.66 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 07:47 pm:    Yes, Tom is right. NAS Jax has Brunswick's C-130's. Have seen them a couple of times but haven't gotten a ride on one yet. Roger in Jacksonville, FL   Tom Jackson Senior Member Username: Tombo Post Number: 506 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 76.106.250.199 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 05:28 pm:    Bill - I think the C130's moved to Jax when the P-3 squadrons were re-located to the base.   Bill Mathews Senior Member Username: Bill_mathews Post Number: 1203 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 173.71.47.192 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 05:02 pm:    Atlanta VR46 moved to FT Worth a couple of years ago. Should have looked at the list closer.   Bill Mathews Senior Member Username: Bill_mathews Post Number: 1202 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 173.71.47.192 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 05:00 pm:    This web site tells (somewhat out of date) what the Navy VR Units do: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/flelogsuppwing.htm The C40 units are J'ville, FT Worth and North Island. The Norfolk C9 unit moved to Oceana a couple of years ago. The Brunswick C130 unit closed down and moved to?? The Willow Grove C9 unit is moving to McGuire in a year or so (BRAC 2005 Study) I believe. I do not yet know if new C40's are in the out years Mil. budget, and who will get them.   William Standage Senior Member Username: Charlie13 Post Number: 1124 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 75.172.84.237 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 02:36 pm:    For what it's worth, C-9A, Nightingale, USAF Medevac; all have been retired to the boneyard (about 8 yrs ago). Andrews AFB still has three tails modified as "C" models and they are used as special mission DV tranport with no red cross on tail. Total production run on this acft was 24. C-9B, USN transport, is currently being retired in favor of the C-40 (Boeing 737). The C-9B has longer range than the "A" model, and can be configured with up to 100 airline type seats. Seats can be removed in favor of cargo. Engines are not fuel efficient and do not meet certain acft sound standards imposed worldwide.   Dave Nosek Intermediate Member Username: Waterman15 Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 134.215.253.245 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 02:16 pm:    Tom your right about the C-9's as far as the Air Force is concerned. They were the workhorse of the Med Evac system for many years. I believe the AF Retired them in the late 80's or early 90's. Not all C-9's were med evac aircraft though. There were a few that were used for administrative use as well hense no red cross. The navy did retain there C-9 aircraft after this time but it sounds like there starting to phase them out as well. It's a great aircraft though and I am sure many will be sorry to see it gone.   Roger Curry Senior Member Username: Rcurryastro Post Number: 834 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 63.168.66.190 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 12:07 pm:    Tom, at least some of the Navy squadrons still use them: Willow Grove and Whidbey are two I am sure of. I have heard they are being retired and replaced with the C40A's. Can't speak on whether they were used for medivac the USAF. Roger   Tom DeMicke Senior Member Username: Typhoontom Post Number: 1028 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 211.121.74.150 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 07:36 am:    I may have been living under a rock, but I could have sworn that all DC-9's have been retired years ago. Isn't that the plane that used to carry the red cross on the tail, then the red cross was removed because the plane was not always being used for medical purposes.   Tony Cabrera Senior Member Username: Tonyc Post Number: 1580 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 88.15.33.116 Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 06:17 am:    Has anyone heard any news concerning this issue lately? Is it firm that NO pax will be allowed on C-9 flights over the water? If so, is the rule applying to all C-9s, including Air Force? Would appreciate your comments.   Martha Fralia Advanced Member Username: Mjfralia Post Number: 371 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 75.141.137.233 Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 02:32 am:    The fuel issue makes sense as the C-9 burns a lot of fuel.   Phyllis DeLancey Senior Member Username: Phyllis Post Number: 2722 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 99.34.250.201 Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 12:47 am:    I was at the Ft. Worth base today, so stopped in to ask this question. They will not take anyone over water, like the big ponds, on the C9, the C40 is still OK. So any of you planning on going to Rota with Forth Worth shortly, don't think you will make it. They told me they take us to St. Johns and pick us up on the way back.   James Sereyko Senior Member Username: Jimak Post Number: 420 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 66.223.214.50 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:45 pm:    I just talked to a pax service rep at Fort Worth. They have had to turn away a few space A pax wanting a ride to Hawaii. The air crew told them “it is a fuel to weight issue”. He said it only concerns flights to Hawaii.   Carole G Intermediate Member Username: Greengal Post Number: 94 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.205.151.181 Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 08:39 pm:    We rode in a C-5 just a couple of weeks ago from Travis to Norfolk NAS. It was a great ride with only 18 pax. We all had a whole row of seats. No maintenance issues.   walter j wise jr Intermediate Member Username: Waltwise Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 68.219.254.191 Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 08:31 pm:    Just curious-has anyone seen a C-5 lately?   Mike Schukert Senior Member Username: Mike_s Post Number: 491 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 74.243.3.113 Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 01:55 pm:    Mike Kerner: Re: your statement: "...the Navy will not fly PAX transoceanic with a two engine plane." The C-40s now in service, and those scheduled to replace the aging C-9s, are two-engine aircraft that routinely fly across the Atlantic and Pacific. Alas, if your memory is like mine, it sometimes fails to serve!   JdDallas Member Username: Jddallas Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 205.188.116.208 Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 01:52 am:    John, I have gone to HI twice via Ft Worth. One time the flight stopped in North Island the other time it stopped in Palm Springs, CA. Both trips took me to K Bay with no problems. The last time, in June 09, we stayed at K Bay then went to Pearl for a few days. The return trip was with the Ft Worth folks non stop from Hickam.   John Advanced Member Username: Jharpst Post Number: 221 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 63.160.239.91 Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:50 am:    John here. The NO fly was started Tues 27 April. Has any one had a flight from Fort Worth or North Island to Hawaii ???   William Standage Senior Member Username: Charlie13 Post Number: 1066 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 75.172.60.96 Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:39 am:    In response to Mike Kerners comments about the Navy not flying space-a pax trans oceanic. That rumor is busted. I flew a Navy C9 from Whitby to Rota, and on to Sigonella last May. They do it all the time. It was an excellent ride, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.   Mike W Advanced Member Username: Mike_in_seattle Post Number: 228 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 198.233.47.87 Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 01:28 am:    If you go to the Whidbey schedule (on line) you see a couple of C-9s going in the near future to Hawaii and Italy, among other places. I suspect there is more to John's experience than met his eye.   mike kerner Intermediate Member Username: Mikerner Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 64.12.116.208 Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 01:20 am:    If my memory serves me correctly, the Navy will not fly PAX transoceanic with a two engine plane.   William Dimsdale Member Username: Mebillyd Post Number: 41 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 74.196.60.127 Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 01:35 pm:    I just returned from Peterson AFB to Oceana on a Navy C-9. It was only one week before that plane was to go to the bone yard. Since the Navy C-9s are quite old and are being replaced by C-40s it could be that they nolonger will fly pax over water in C-9s?   John David Brooks Advanced Member Username: Johnb6597 Post Number: 374 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 121.55.235.75 Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 04:47 am:    I'm guessing here, but it's probably more likely they meant to say that particular mission was changed and was no longer destined for Hawaii, or was still destined to Hawaii but could not transport passengers due to the nature or volume of cargo.   Danny Hamilton Senior Member Username: Dannyhamilton Post Number: 584 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.225.115.15 Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 03:19 am:    "We were told that the Navy would no longer fly over the water to HI with pax." Gee, John, I hope NAS North Island doesn't hear of this!   John Advanced Member Username: Jharpst Post Number: 218 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 208.9.117.219 Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 01:46 am:    I was on a flight from Fort Worth to HI. We changed Arrival to Moffett field. We were told that the Navy would no longer fly over the water to HI with pax. We went to Travis and RON and on to HI today