USAF employee deploying downrange--de...

Author Message   Kristen Burzumato New member Username: Kristen1nv Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 93.212.33.221 Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:03 am:    I sure will probably next week when all the chaos winds down. Thanks   dinotars Senior Member Username: Dinotars Post Number: 6648 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 173.169.151.24 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 09:39 pm:    Kristen, What pax terminal did he visit and was provided the information you mentioned?   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4398 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 195.145.135.149 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 06:21 pm:    Yes, most definitely - please post the details and authorizing reference so I can update the FAQ.   DeeDee Clarke Senior Member Username: Deedee Post Number: 625 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 67.11.180.124 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 06:08 pm:    I would also be curious to find out what documentation you will need to have to show to the passenger terminal reps to show that you are authorized. There is a letter for family members of deployed military members, will you need a similar letter? I would imagine so since it is a confusing issue.   Brian T. Edwards Intermediate Member Username: Briane Post Number: 144 Registered: 06-2007 Posted From: 64.93.125.243 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 05:16 pm:    I'd have him get a copy of info the pax rep there found and send it to yo to carry with you as you might not run into a knowledgeable rep when you try to fly.   John R Garrison Senior Member Username: Majorg Post Number: 2569 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 208.81.157.86 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 04:15 pm:    Kristen: Very happy to hear that you are authorized spacea unaccompanied. It would be very helpful for many readers of this site if you could quote chapter and verse (ie where the rest of us might find this authorization in print) so that others might avail themselves of this privilage. It is always helpful to have the regs/reference so that correct info might be passed on in the future (at a minimum, I'm sure JohnD would like the info to post on JohnD's SpaceA Pages as an addition to the FAQs. Happy travels, John   Kristen Burzumato New member Username: Kristen1nv Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 93.212.33.221 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 03:37 pm:    He came home today after going to the terminal and we are authorized! They found the right info. I am so glad that someone who has worked there a while was available. Thanks for all of the input, I appreciate all of your assistance   RB Advanced Member Username: Space_ace Post Number: 156 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 75.61.141.113 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 03:37 pm:    AS a pax rep from what is briefly mentioned I agree with the others and see no entitlement. It is possible for a DOD civilian to be deployed however there is no provision to let civilian dependents fly at any time unaccompanied. Civilians living and stationed in an overseas remote area do have Environmental Morale Leave but this does pertain to you. One other note the flights to Europe are far from empty. Be safe!   Leland Senior Member Username: Leland Post Number: 6190 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 98.218.147.237 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 03:26 pm:    Kristen, if you go to any military base you will find large numbers of civilians who get paid by the services. Ft Myer, for instance, has plumbers, electricians, road maintenance crews, data entry clerks, IT workers, etc, who are paid by the Army. That does not make them members of the military. The key to all military benefits is the DEERS system. If your husband is in there as AD military, then he gets those benefits. If he is in there as a retiree, that determines his benefits. DEERS defines his status, and hence, benefits.   Kristen Burzumato New member Username: Kristen1nv Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 93.212.33.221 Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 02:53 pm:    He is 'owned' by the USAF, paid by Langley, his home office is Langley, deployments are done there. He will find his SF 86 or 85 or whatever then I will let you know. All his funds come from Langley. His supervisors are not on base, they all go through the Langley chain of command.   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4388 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 95.208.80.143 Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:33 pm:    Kristen Sounds like whoever is providing you info is confusing this with unaccompanied dependent travel for deployed military members (not civilians). See the relevant Spacea.net FAQ article.   Kristen Burzumato New member Username: Kristen1nv Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 93.212.55.165 Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:13 pm:    We can travel accompanied by him Space A, that is for sure, but I am being told that when he deploys we can travel (only during that deployment) unaccompanied. I will find out more, I was told of this forum and figured after my research I could ask if I did not find it. Thank you for your polite responses   william brown Senior Member Username: Brown9bill Post Number: 631 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 108.0.100.243 Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:03 pm:    Kristen: Do you really know what your husband status is? If he retired from the AF and is now a USAF Employee, he must also be a DOD employee. What type of ID Card do you have? We know you have a retired dependent ID card. Do you also have a ID card for his civilian status? Recommend you call or e-mail your husband and have him clear up what status he is in. I doubt if you are authorized dependent travel like the military personnel dependent who are authorized space A travel. Happy Travels.   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4385 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 95.208.80.143 Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 01:22 pm:    Kristen, If dependents of deployed DoD employees are authorised to travel Space-A unaccompanied then it's news to me. Which section of DoD 4515.13-R (I presume that's what you are referring to as 45-13R?) shows that dependents of civilians deployed to Afghanistan are authorized Space-A travel?   Kristen Burzumato New member Username: Kristen1nv Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 79.249.13.25 Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 11:41 am:    My husband retired after 20+ years. He is now a USAF employee. We PCSd to Germany on orders, paid by the military. He gets a paycheck from the USAF. he is NOT a contractor nor a DoD civilian employee alone, he is a USAF employee, we are sponsored here at the base we have all the same priv's here that we had active duty....... Our son and I can travel Space A as retirees, but only with him, our sponsor I have been told several times that in the 45-13R it shows that if he is DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN as a USAF employee, base sponsored, PCS'd here via their expense, etc.......that we can fly Space A for that, at a low category I am sure I don't care if it is categor XXVIII -- the planes leave here empty all the time Can someone tell me where I find the information that pertains to this so that I can go to the terminal and present it? thank you so much for your time on this I have searched high and low, and I know it must be somewhere in that section where it talks about categories but I guess the lingo is hard for me to interpret I also asked at the terminal, 2 of the 3 said we can, but 1 said no. They are all new. I don't want to annoy the crap out of them anymore, but if I find it in the reg, I can take it in with me, yes?