Travis to Germany Next Week (May)...

Author Message   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4422 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 93.83.83.226 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 08:01 pm:    Toiny, Your 19 y/o is able to travel as a non-command sponsored Cat-V. Same CONUS restrictions apply as in the previous discussions.   Toiny Junior Member Username: Toiny Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 05:56 pm:    He was already at school when we PCS'd. He wasn't on orders. I've had a hard time getting him added on, or command-sponsored. Let's just say things didn't go smooth. I also have a 2nd son, 19, dependent, not on orders, not command-sponsored and not in school. We are wondering how to get him over as well. So far the whole PCS has cost us an arm & leg (and half the HHG broke). I just want to get my boy(s) home for the summer! Thanks so much, Toiny   William Standage Senior Member Username: Charlie13 Post Number: 1069 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 75.172.95.99 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:57 pm:    Toiny, After reading this dialogue, a whole host of questions come to my mind. Did your son, actually PCS with you to Germany and then return to CA for school? If so, wouldn't he be a command sponsored dependent? If you PCS'd without him because he was in school, and he is listed on your PCS orders for Germany, shouldn't he be entitled for the paid commercial ticket to Germany to joint the family? If you PCS'd to Germany with him, and then sent him to school in CONUS, you might be eligible to one paid comm'l ticket per year for him to return home for the annual visit. I experienced something similar to this in the mid 90's when we were PCS'd to Hawaii. A couple of my dependent daughters attending college on the mainland. We received one paid ticket for each (1/yr) to bring them home to Hawaii. We usually used it for the summer break. By timing our tickets, we were actually able to use one for a Christmas/trimester break. On one occasion, I space-a traveled to the mainland to pick them up, and we all space-a traveled back to Hawaii as cat III's. Other possible variations of this theme come to mind for your situation. Good Luck, space required is much better than space available. Consult your base Transportation Management Office (TMO), and Joint Travel Regulations (JTR).   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4420 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 93.83.83.226 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 02:26 pm:    The Fiscal Year (FY) begins 1 October so yes, he could do it again in December for FY11.   Toiny New member Username: Toiny Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 01:28 pm:    Hmmm it says fiscal year. Would it be possible to do this and again in December for Christmas? Since December marks new fiscal year? He qualifies elsewise. Thanks so much! You guys are amazing. Toiny   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4419 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 93.83.83.226 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 01:13 pm:    Yes, assuming you meet the criteria that would certainly be a better option then Space-A! http://www.imcom-europe.army.mil/sites/divisions/hr_milper_serv_famtravel_stutra vel.asp   DeeDee Clarke Senior Member Username: Deedee Post Number: 630 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 67.11.180.124 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 01:03 pm:    Why not just have the Government pay for a flight for him? From DoD 4515.13-R: C2.2.3.1.9. Overseas-stationed Uniformed Services members' unmarried dependents who are under 23-years old and full-time students attending a school in the United States to obtain a secondary or undergraduate education. Government-funded transportation is authorized for one round-trip each fiscal year between the school and the member's overseas PDS. (See JFTR Volume 1, paragraph U5243 (reference (b)) for details on restrictions that apply to this travel and for information concerning travel to and/or from other than the member's PDS.) Transoceanic travel shall be accomplished through AMC-arranged Category B service when it is available.   Toiny New member Username: Toiny Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:53 am:    Perfect John! I will get the letter, sponsor, thankfully, returns home tomorrow and can facillitate that. Gonna go see where else Travis flies to. The boy is willing to fly anywhere in the world LOL. Thank God for adventerous, fearless kids. T   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4414 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 195.145.135.149 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:43 am:    Correct, Travis (or other CONUS location) would have to manifests him Through to Ramstein (or other overseas location) on the same mission and he could fly on that mission even if the aircraft transited a CONUS location (e.g. Dover). Once he is in Europe he can hop from any location to Ramstein if a flight is available.   Toiny New member Username: Toiny Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:35 am:    Okay so he is okay to fly Space A under either of these conditions: 1. If Travis manifests him Through to Ramstein (or spangledhem); and/or 2. He has the Non-command sponsor letter in his possession at flight time He has ID, he has passport... any other worries/contingencies I should plan for? Thanks so much! Toiny   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4413 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 195.145.135.149 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:32 am:    Yes Tony, it is true - unaccompanied Non-command sponsored dependents cannot travel within CONUS unless it's part of a mission to/from overseas. It's also true that Non-command sponsored dependents are authorized to travel unaccompanied to/from their sponsor's OCONUS duty station with the appropriate letter (and ID and passport of course).   Toiny New member Username: Toiny Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:27 am:    Thanks for the quick answer... is this true even with the Non-command sponsor letter? The short answer is YES! Non-command sponsored dependents are authorized to travel unaccompanied to/from their sponsor's OCONUS duty station. Documentation signed by the sponsor's commander verifying non-command sponsorship shall be presented to air terminal personnel, and shall be in the dependents' possession during travel. This letter is valid for one Cat-V round-trip to and from the sponsor's OCONUS PCS duty location. Space-A travel must be completed within ninety (90) days from the date the letter is issued or a new letter is required. Toiny   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4412 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 195.145.135.149 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:22 am:    As a Cat-V he can't travel within CONUS. If he can get to BWI then BWI to Ramstein is certainly one option! See the http://spacea.net/ FAQ for Unaccompanied dependent Travel in CONUS.   Antoinette New member Username: Toiny Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 91.47.35.234 Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:17 am:    Hey all, I'm reading away & packing so much knowledge in already. Thank you all for being here. My oldest (19), Cat V, just finished finals in California, he wants to come out for the summer. Space A is our most afforable option, so he's our guinea pig. We are in Stuttgart. I'm assuming Travis-BWI-RAMSTEIN is his best bet. Any arguments? Words of advice? Help? Thanks so much, Toiny