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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 116
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 162.58.82.136
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   

I contacted ANG ops at BTL. They indicate no contact or passengers getting on / off the Willow Grove flights at the ANG ramp. Contact with the ATCT indicates that Duncan has the military fueling contracts and that military planes occasionally park over night at the Duncan ramp. The Duncan flight desk said long term parking is in a gravel lot which I see is located at about Lat / Long 42deg 18' 04" N, 85deg 15' 11" W; and their flight desk is at Lat / Long 42deg 18' 15" N, 85deg 15' 17.9" W.
Looking at the Willow Grove posted flight schedule I surmise that most flights shown to BTL are tentative and perhaps most do not occur because as they move up to the actual date in the schedule, the BTL flight disappears off the schedule. I estimate catching a flight at BTL is a slim possibility. Perhaps there is a contact at Willow Grove to help determine when a tentative is near the actual date to confirm the flight.
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DENNIS D HUDOCK
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Username: Dhudock

Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 99.130.35.134
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   

James, Yes but I haven't called out there in quite some time. Base Ops at Selfridge just doesn't keep a handle on the 171st flights very well that is why they give out there own Space-A number to call. I really should check it out more often. I see them coming back to Selfridge all the time from some great places world wide.
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James H. Coppens
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Username: Coppens1

Post Number: 94
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 134.93.40.24
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   

Thanks, Dinotars. I will check MacDill and try it sometimes.

Dennis, is 171st Space-A line (586) 239-2606 Selfridge?
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DENNIS D HUDOCK
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Username: Dhudock

Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 76.226.131.60
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   

Try the 171st Space-A line (586) 239-2606. It has a LONG ring time so hang in there! This unit is co-located to MacDill. They also fly world wide but not to often. MTC also has a Base Ops line at (586) 239-5884 Good Luck, I usually drive to Wright-Pat (3hrs).
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dinotars
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Username: Dinotars

Post Number: 6697
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 173.169.151.24
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 03:54 pm:   

James,
Check the MacDill AFB flights schedules.I have posted flights to Selfridge AFB (MTC) about once per month.
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James H. Coppens
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Username: Coppens1

Post Number: 93
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 134.93.47.181
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 03:34 pm:   

I am a Michigander living in FL, and have never seen any opportunity to fly to Mich from anywhere down here. Anyone know of any opportunities to go space a to Mich from the South? I have lots of relatives in Grand Rapids. JC
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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 112
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 76.203.30.148
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   

Dave N- I will stop at KBTL in the next two months to see where the WG pilots enter Duncan and where I may park my car for several weeks. Thanks for the ANG update. Its been many years since I designed the layout for RWY 23 approach lights and visited the FIFO office at BTL. I see you worked at Prestwick; the Souda Bay (CHQ) flight schedule shows a stop there.
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Dave Nosek
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Username: Waterman15

Post Number: 51
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 134.215.253.245
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   

For Bob Radar: I have not had any contact with the Duncan FBO. Battle Creek airport is actually a joint function. There is a Michigan ANG base as well as a commercial airport. There is no scheduled air service though. They use the same runways but that is about it. The ANG base is where I have been trying to get information about since they recently have obtained some C-21 type aircraft which could open up some opportunities for Space A travel.
I have no idea why the Navy would use Duncan but its probably because of convience. Prior to your comment I didn't even know they handled military aircraft. Always assumed they would use the ANG base but apparently not. For people in this area the base is available for things like ID cards etc and has a small BX but not a lot else.
If I am in the area when one of the navy aircraft arrives though I will see if I can contact them about possibilities. We don't often see military aircraft arriving here so the Willow Grove schedules were a surprise. I would imagine it would be like any other FBO where if you have the proper ID and possibly a manifest prepared they would provide seats if available.
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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 111
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 162.58.82.136
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:46 pm:   

Dave N-
I see 2 flights in NXX schedule early next week to BTL. If you are at Duncan FBO; I'm curious to learn what the Willow Grove crew says for SpaceA at BTL.
It looks like todays flight to BTL didn't go.
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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 110
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 75.58.37.126
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 11:21 pm:   

Dave N-
Have you been at Duncan FBO upon arrival asked the Willow Grove C-21 crew about Space A possibilities?
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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 107
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 162.58.82.135
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 11:42 am:   

See Willow Grove(NXX) flight schedule post for 2 seats on 14 May; and scroll to bottom to see the 40 lb limit. I searched KBTL to find http://www.acukwik.com/AirportInfo/KBTL - -where I scrolled down to see 'FBO' -> Duncan telephone number and verified that they serve C-21. See John Ds -> FAQues 6.3 - - The local FBO at PWK verified with some pilots that landed from Willow Grove that SpaceA is a possibility; which I plan to try in the future. I see the McGuire schedule usually has several flights per week to McChord.
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Dave Nosek
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Username: Waterman15

Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 134.215.253.245
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 05:39 am:   

I live in Battle Creek and snd ask at least once a month about Space A opportunities. So far the ops people are not offering anything from here. They do have there C21's in place but so far no info is available on schedules etc. When and if the time comes I will offer my services as a poster with the boards permission but so far there isn't much to provide. I would check with Selfridge though. The numbers are provided on the location pages and you never know. I have seen flights posted to there from several places and they have to start out somewhere.
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William Standage
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Username: Charlie13

Post Number: 1084
Registered: 07-2004
Posted From: 75.172.92.247
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 05:26 am:   

If you aiming for McChord, you had better drive to Scott. It will improve your odds of finding a flight.
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Bob radar
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Username: Bob_radar

Post Number: 106
Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 75.57.175.253
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 03:25 am:   

I guess Wright-Pat Dayton OH is the closest AFB. I see about 2 flights per month on the Willow Grove (NXX) flight schedule post for Selfridge ANGB at Mt Clemens. See todays (NXX) schedule and FAQues 6.3 for perhaps boarding at Battle Creek. From NXX it is about a 2 hour drive to McGuire where Hertz has a key drop box in the PAX terminal. I guess McGuire or Dover have flights to McCord. Within the past 2 months the car rental info for NXX was given on Pepperd.
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Norm Eugene Lofting
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Username: Normlofting

Post Number: 91
Registered: 03-2007
Posted From: 71.7.85.196
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 11:31 pm:   

I would like to travel from any AFB in Michigan or close to Lansing, Michigan to McChord. Does anyone know of the closest AFB to Lansing, Michigan

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