Limited space-a lodging at Ramstein

Author Message   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 4128 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 95.208.80.143 Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:34 pm:    David, Yes.   David Pierce New member Username: Pierce388 Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.59.173.142 Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:29 pm:    Do they allow cat VI's with spouse to use the VOQ? I have used Navy BOQ with spouse in Bermuda, but not sure about Ramstein practices. Thanks.   Bob Dart Senior Member Username: Bobdart Post Number: 1340 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 80.148.22.39 Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 07:22 pm:    There are no rooms available in KMCC for at least the next three days. However, there are rooms available for single male patrons at Vogelwey. You still have to make your reservation through Ramstein.   Leland Senior Member Username: Leland Post Number: 5863 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 98.218.147.237 Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 12:20 am:    Lew, try toggling the "insert" button on and off. It should be in the upper right of the keyboard somewhere.   Lew Wirfs Intermediate Member Username: Lew Post Number: 135 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 12.77.84.188 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:57 pm:    Reguarding my rerport below you will not many typos. I got a new comoputer and key boart and when I attempt to edit my text and i press the space bar it deletes the first letter in the following word so I gave up and posts as is, sorry about that. Haven't figgured out why yet Lew   Jack T. Paxton Senior Member Username: Jpaxton Post Number: 790 Registered: 07-2003 Posted From: 24.27.231.67 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 07:45 pm:    For those of you who do not know Lew Wirfs, read and pay attention. He is probably one of the most knowledgeable members of this board who continues to travel when he says he is done. He usually right on the money. In these cases, he is!   Lew Wirfs Intermediate Member Username: Lew Post Number: 134 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 12.77.135.222 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:52 am:    I started this string, it's so old I suppose no one readinger it is amazing how much confusing (and misinformation) can find it,s way on to this board (I'm not saying it is intentional, everyone is posting their best opinion but it does't help those asking for help. Some one is going to say if you are so darn smart why don't you teell it the way is si I will In a post below someone said and I paraphrase, "I saw them turn away a female with three children and a silgle person next in line got a room Tha fact, The Female was only entitled to lodging in TLF (fasmily quarters because of the children and there were NO TLFs available. The single person (male or female) was entitled to a standard single room and one was available so the person got it. In another post it read and I paraphrase, I have given up or would give up my room for a dependent with three children, this again is misinformation, as I stated above the dependent cannot stay in the single rooms, she must go to TLF! I would add this, rooms are not available until trhe. are serviced then reported to thedesk and are made available out withthe flu there could be unavailable roooms because there is no one to service them, I have posted elswhere that Rooms are reserved until 1800 without penalty, they are also held until 2100 If guarenteed with a credit card.. Much of the reservations are made in CONUS awaiting transportation which vanishes (the C-5 broke) or they missed the cut at BWI and those reservations are released when cancelled of at 1800 and again at 2300 nd there can be a substancial number perhaps even enough to accomodate those who departed CONUS without reserving a room before they left or at least trying to You ask how do I do this? Along with straighteningout some errors in my dissertation above I'll tell you how. Upon arrival at your planned departure depoint Find the DSN (Defensed Swiotching Network) and dial 4--314-480-4920 and be prepared to wait whileyou are told the number you are in the que Request your lodging as follows, Do you have one room, for two adults for 1, 2,3 nights as needed Starting Month/day They will prompt you for information and they will ask if you want it held until 1800 or 2300 with a credit card. NOTE; If you miss your flight call and cancel so others don't have to wait until 1800 or 2300 if you don't cancel your 2300 it will cost you a night even though they sell the room I hope I don't get hammered to hard by some lodging agents who post here   Robert V Jones Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 37 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 72.40.63.58 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:33 pm:    Diane, Another "poster" has asked my question in Ground Trans (rental agency you used at Spang). Please answer the question in that forum. Thanks. Bob   D.B.M UK Senior Member Username: Overlandrover Post Number: 5647 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 88.105.108.118 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 04:00 pm:    Mike, correct on Hertz leaving Spang. At least when we were there in Oct, the lady at Hertz was moving out the end of the month.   Mike Senior Member Username: Immerfertig Post Number: 1898 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 75.132.183.184 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:52 pm:    Diane, I think Bob is saying HIS question to you, i.e., "Which rental agency did you use from Spang? I believe I heard elsewhere Hertz was closing there.. Any words of wisdom?" belongs in the Ground Trans forum, not the information your posted. _   Diane Rasulis Member Username: Didi Post Number: 29 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 97.96.18.170 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 12:55 pm:    The main idea of my post was that we were able to get rooms at Ramstein even though we arrived late and unexpectedly from Spangdahlem. We jumped at the chance even though we paid for 2 rooms. I think that belongs in Lodging. Right, Bob?   BH Member Username: Springs80 Post Number: 18 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 93.211.170.209 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:03 am:    With an operation the sheer size of Ramstein or other large hubs like Travis, cancellations occur throughout the day/evening. Therefore, the availability of rooms changes all the time. This also holds true for the smaller properties, but is especially true at these larger ones. Searching for a room is not a complicated process. You pull up the availability screen for a particular property and it shows available rms on the screen. As with any service related work, you may encounter less than helpful customer service periodically. However, I strongly believe overall Air Force lodging provides excellent service and 99% of the guest service reps do all they can to assist. I could post hundreds of examples of unreasonable/rude/disrespectful guests who cross the line when attempting to get a reservation. But that would be unfair to the tens of thousands of guests who are polite and truly appreciate the assistance the GSRs provide.   Larry W. Carnes Senior Member Username: Larry Post Number: 1056 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 12.72.125.190 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 12:58 am:    "If a room is available you will get a room, whether on the phone or at the desk." Somehow, that statement just doesn't ring true. I and probably quite a few other readers of these rants have personally been told over the phone there are no rooms available, but when we've walked over to billeting we've been given rooms. It would require, in Hillary's words, a "suspension of disbelief" to assume cancellations came in during the 10 minutes or so it took to walk over to the office. I suspect a lot of desk clerks (or whatever politically correct job title they use) enjoy playing God. I KNOW some search a lot harder than others when trying to locate a vacant room on their computer.   Robert V Jones Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 72.40.63.58 Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 12:16 am:    Diane, This should be in Ground Trans but am afraid you wouldn't see the question. Which rental agency did you use from Spang? I believe I heard elsewhere Hertz was closing there.. Any words of wisdom? Thanks. Bob   Diane Rasulis Member Username: Didi Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 97.96.18.170 Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 08:37 pm:    We arrived at Ramstein via a rental car after arriving spacea at Spangdahlem. (We were originally headed to Rota on a C5, that's another whole different story!) Spouse and I were offered 2 rooms with a shared bath in the old housing. It cost somehere in the $70 range but we were happy to get it.   BH Member Username: Springs80 Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 93.211.183.50 Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:56 pm:    Earl, You are 100% spot on with your comments. I get tired of some of the posts that insinuate that there is some secret stash of rooms that are kept aside. As a former Air Force Lodging Mgr, I can tell you without a doubt that operations do not hold rooms other than for reservations or possibly rooms that are specifically designated as aircrew rooms. There is no magic to the process. If a room is available you will get a room, whether on the phone or at the desk. You make very valid comments about the rooms with shared baths. Air Force policy specifically prohibits having men and women sharing a bathroom.   Earl Senior Member Username: Myramstein Post Number: 636 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 68.243.218.136 Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 04:21 am:    Bill, Who gets a room should not be if the person in front of the desk has kids or not....young or old, retired or not, …..Does not matter. If they have rooms to give out they do. If not, then they don't. If rooms are open then they are given out on a first come first served basis. Of course, unless one has a reservation, flight crew, on orders etc. Now to make sure my point is not taken in the wrong vain: I have given up my shot at a room when there was mom (or a dad) needing a room and they had the kids in tow. I am more than willing to find a place (couch in the lobby, outside etc) so they can have a room. Sincerely believe the times I gave up my shot at getting a room the person I gave it to needed it more than me. BUT, at no time should a lodging policy be holding rooms from singles, or married couples, cause of moms showing up with kids, or moms standing in line with kids. No you did not say that. That is my opinion. As you may know, the older quarters at Ramstein have share-a-bath rooms. Lodging there does not like to put a woman in one room (with or without kids) and a male in the other room when you have to share a bath. That could also be the problem when a mom calls with kids. They may have a share a bath room open, but that they need to put a male in the other room. One time I was at Ramstein and a mom with kids was told “no rooms.” And the male in line got a room. She threw a fit until it was explained to her the policy about the share a bath rooms in the older quarters.   william brown Senior Member Username: Brown9bill Post Number: 548 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 80.254.146.140 Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:27 am:    I passed though Ramstein a few days ago and there were no quarters available there or any other military installation in the area. You can see the effective on the surge at Ramstein. Planes flying everywhere as indicated by their flight schedule report. Happy Travels.   John D. Moderator Username: John_d Post Number: 3921 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 95.208.80.143 Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 03:47 am:    Amanda, I'm not sure if you've discovered the Ramstein info yet at spacea.net but the AMCGRAM (available from the Ramstein Wiki Page contains a list of local lodging along with phone numbers and relative distance from base. The spacea.net Ramstein Wiki Page also has an older lodging list from 2004. Finally, there's a lot more info there that you may find helpful for other locations you may pass through on your journey. Spacea.net Europe Listing   Bill Mc Carthy Intermediate Member Username: Billmacnypd Post Number: 86 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 71.252.94.16 Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 11:25 pm:    Amanda: If you are near the KMCC stop by with the kids. A live person standing in front of the desk is hard to turn away without trying to help them. Would not be surprised if a room became avaialble or perhaps they can find you other quarters. Bill   Amanda Feeser New member Username: Amandakayla Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 89.252.131.123 Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 05:12 am:    Mike, Thanks. When I said that I had no plan B, I just meant I had no idea where to stay. I made sure I have the extra money. And, after I calmed myself down last night, I looked through more of the threads here and found one that has a nice listing of near base hotels, I wrote the list down in my handy, dandy notebook, and now I'm ready for the adventure to begin. Thanks again!   Mike Schukert Senior Member Username: Mike_s Post Number: 443 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 74.243.3.106 Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:26 pm:    Amanda: Sorry to learn of your potentially dire predicament, a situation made worse by the fact that you don't have your spouse with you to share your burdens and anxieties. For sure a "Plan B," like an AMX card, is something without which one ought not leave home! Sometime it boils down to simply having sufficient cash on hand to defray unanticipated meals, off-base lodging and commercial transportation expenses. Other moms anticipating space-a trips in an "unaccompanied with kids" status could learn from your experience. Good luck!   Amanda Feeser New member Username: Amandakayla Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 89.252.131.123 Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 07:19 pm:    this is not-so-great news since I'm trying to get a room there tomorrow night and Thursday for me and my two kids. I called about ten minutes ago and she said they had nothing. She also checked two other places and said they have nothing. I have NO plan B for lodging, and no ideas of where to find a plan B. This is our first space-a travel!   Lew Wirfs Intermediate Member Username: Lew Post Number: 130 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 12.77.86.107 Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 10:09 pm:    I posed this question to lodging at Ramstein, With the opening of 350 new rooms at KMCC space-a lodging seems to be more limited than before. You are correct, the reason is we closed 550 rooms at Sembach and have one old building under renovation so I wouldn't plan on home basing there for two weeks. Lew