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William Dimsdale
Member Username: Mebillyd
Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 74.196.60.127
| Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 02:46 pm: | |
Recent national news has brought up the Army's lack of lodging maintenance & the costs to the user. This issue, which also effects active duty personnel and their dependents, is now likely to recieve congressional attention. |
   
Dakota Ray
Advanced Member Username: Rhammer
Post Number: 352 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 69.62.147.217
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:22 pm: | |
Hi Lee, I don't disagree with what you wrote. It is about money but if you have vacancies and lose people it may not be practical. I certainly don't have a "cash flow" of billeting. I also have not lost the perspective of spending millions of dollars on various projects, planes, equipment, funding "sand box" wars, etc. The military seems to have lost some perspective of "people" (including people who use billeting)in the money game. For me, I will use what is more economical and convenient. That maybe off base lodging or facilities. Thanks for the comments--I alway appreciate your comments and perspective. Lee you always have a practical view!!! |
   
Leland
Senior Member Username: Leland
Post Number: 5716 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 98.218.147.237
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:08 pm: | |
Hi Ray, Actually, with the Army it is all about money. They turned their billeting over to MWR, who use it to make a profit that they, in turn, use to fund their MWR projects. They maximize their return by contracting out the construction and operation of the facilities to private hotel chains (currently IHG, I think) who base the fees they charge on what local hotels charge. The Army is doing the same thing with housing. Having neglected to properly fund housing for decades they are now so far into the hole in terms of maintenance (remember that youtube video of Ft. Campbell barracks with overflowing toilets, etc?) that the only way to remedy the problem is to sell their soldiers to the highest bidder. They then turn around and put out press releases patting themselves on the back for finally putting up decent housing. Army housing lost their moral compass a long time ago. Sorry for the rant. I held off as long as I could. |
   
Dakota Ray
Advanced Member Username: Rhammer
Post Number: 351 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 69.62.147.217
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:02 pm: | |
Interesting!!! Isn't http://www.discounthotelshawaii.com/ great. I was one of the first that put the link on this board. You have to realize that the Army (military) is not there to make money. Some General or someone of slightly lesser rank may have had an idea and is trying to "make rank". Logic or economics does not entry in. Use whatever is the most best for you based on cost and convenience. If the vacancy rate is high, things will change but it may be some time. |
   
Larry W. Carnes
Senior Member Username: Larry
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 71.40.19.90
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:38 pm: | |
This just isn't RIGHT. How in the world is the Army justifying those rates? |
   
John B
Senior Member Username: Jbrunslik
Post Number: 1107 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 76.218.116.174
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:11 pm: | |
Just finished a stay in Waikiki at the Malie Sky Court. Small room but adequate, on the bus line, $55 per night through the following site. http://www.discounthotelshawaii.com/ |
   
Charlie S
Intermediate Member Username: Avcm
Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2003 Posted From: 69.180.105.164
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 01:20 pm: | |
Hi DeeDee oops! Been out too long. |
   
Ed Williams
Senior Member Username: Hooter55
Post Number: 681 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 140.32.107.150
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:59 am: | |
Kim and I checked Ft. Sill's rates on our last trip back to TX/OK and found it to be way cheaper to stay off base. They are under the IHG and a test of rates today had their cheapest room at $108/night. |
   
DeeDee Clarke
Senior Member Username: Deedee
Post Number: 528 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 72.181.14.46
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:26 am: | |
Charlie - if they are PCSing they will get reimbursed. |
   
Garland Summerall
Advanced Member Username: Garland
Post Number: 219 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 206.251.14.87
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 02:42 am: | |
Yes let's take care of our military personnel.Give them the shaft.Congress should be ashamed. Garland |
   
Phillip J. Annis
New member Username: Pjannis
Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 67.53.38.18
| Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:10 am: | |
Tripler and others have gone nuts. Try the MWR Folks at Pearl Harbor for rooms downtown. We are 1.5 blocks from Hale Koa, $77/night, nice clean room, free WIFI, coffee in room etc., big screen TV. However no beautiful views just a nice reasonable room. Try Regina at the pearl harbor MWR office just inside the Nimitz gate, don't know their # but they can help. |
   
Charlie S
Intermediate Member Username: Avcm
Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2003 Posted From: 69.180.105.164
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:54 pm: | |
Just checked San Antonio, a place where I stayed several times for $40/night suite. Standard room is $90/night PLUS 16.75% Tax! Run, do not walk, away as fast as you can. I really feel badly for the E1/2/3s who are PCSing w/ family. |
   
Charlie S
Intermediate Member Username: Avcm
Post Number: 113 Registered: 07-2003 Posted From: 69.180.105.164
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:53 pm: | |
Just checked San Antonio, a place where I stayed several times for $40/night suite. Standard room is $90/night PLUS 16.75% Tax! Run, do not walk, away as fast as you can. I really feel badly for the E1/2/3s who are PCSing w/ family. |
   
dallas watanabe
Member Username: Islandkava
Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.234.61.199
| Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 09:19 pm: | |
Tripler Lodging as of 4 Feb.10 is 170.00 per night.(E-6) retired on unofficial business. Waikiki may be a better choice. |
   
Rodney Rummel
Member Username: Rodney_rummel
Post Number: 44 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 72.65.92.220
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:56 pm: | |
Some of the Army Installations Lodging are being privatized by IHG Army Hotels who are a subsidiary of Holiday Inn Express, Staybridge Suites & Candlewood Suites. You can see which is apart of that group by going to their web site and looking at the installation drop down list. http://www.ihgarmyhotels.com/pal/en/us/home |
   
Bill M
Member Username: Billemoore
Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2003 Posted From: 173.96.204.140
| Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:30 pm: | |
I have also heard this at several stations. Read also that the system change will include taxing the accommodation as has happened at AAFES service stations where Firestone has has become the concessionaire. My concern is the benefit erosion for the entering and lower ranks |
   
Charlie S
Intermediate Member Username: Avcm
Post Number: 110 Registered: 07-2003 Posted From: 69.180.105.164
| Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 02:07 pm: | |
During my last stay at Hunter, The folks at the TLF told me that all TLFs were being privatized (read Motel chain management). Now you know the rest of the story. |
   
Phil Doubleman
Senior Member Username: Phil
Post Number: 1432 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 173.198.87.203
| Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:09 pm: | |
re... "Ouch! What kind of room was it that cost $150?" An Army room. I think that their TLA rate has increased so lodging has increased accordingly to take advantage of it. The Army lodging rates all over seem to be equal to or above the Navy Lodge's rate and in much poorer condition. |
   
Melinda Cardarelli
Advanced Member Username: Jmcard
Post Number: 319 Registered: 06-2007 Posted From: 74.215.11.118
| Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 04:13 pm: | |
Ouch! What kind of room was it that cost $150? Hopefully at least a TLF-type place with more space. Do you still get a breakfast there? |
   
Conrad Booze
New member Username: Lipscomb
Post Number: 5 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 65.102.0.107
| Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 03:12 pm: | |
We returned from Hawaii on Jan. 25th.2010. We called tripler lodging about a room, some one had told us the cost was $150.00 per night. I could not believe it because in Jan 2009 we had stayed there for $62.50 per night. But sorry to say when we called that was the price. Thank goodness we found another place |