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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 427
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 04:12 am:   

Danny,

You are correct about the . or the dash. It was a typo. Neal did catch it!!!

I checked Neal's location and it is right on top of Billeting-probably on top of the one room office in the building.

Thanks for watching.
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Danny Hamilton
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Username: Dannyhamilton

Post Number: 568
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.225.115.15
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 03:21 am:   

Dakota, you posted:

"Can you use coordinates for Camp Rell?

41.3323N 72-1867W using the decimal system."

I'm sure you meant to place a DECIMAL POINT in the longitude instead of a DASH!

Neal, are you sure you have the correct location marked now? Maybe you caught the typo in Dakota's posting.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 224
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 01:47 am:   

Got it in the right place. Thanks Dakota
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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 426
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 01:27 am:   

Hi Neal,

Can you use coordinates for Camp Rell?

41.3323N 72-1867W using the decimal system.

That is the parking in front of Billeting. I was there about 18 months ago. The Billeting Office is close to the center of the camp.

I did not bring up your map and look at the placemark. If you can't use coordinates, send a private email and I will bring up your map and try to help you that way.

Thanks for all your work!!!
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 223
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 10:05 pm:   

Camp Rell added but I don't think my placemark is correct. How about some help.
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bob leonard
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Username: Rmleo

Post Number: 364
Registered: 06-2007
Posted From: 24.61.110.226
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   

camp rell niantic ct. Named for the present governor. They change the name every time they elect a new one (the last one is in the can). A nice place to stay and cheap too.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 220
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 12:06 am:   

Ft Tuthill, AZ added to the map.
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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 421
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:38 pm:   

Thanks Jerry,

I found it this morning.

Mine is already set up for the decimal system because I was using that for the GPS/Google Earth project for Leland.

I knew it was there but my mind seems to be going away faster than my body. That scares me!!

Thanks again!!!
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Jerry Hunt
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Username: Exflier49

Post Number: 412
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 71.100.79.231
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:33 pm:   

Dakota,
Look under "Tools - Options" in Google Earth to change the system.
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Leland
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Username: Leland

Post Number: 6097
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 98.218.147.237
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 05:07 pm:   

Danny, thank you.
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Danny Hamilton
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Username: Dannyhamilton

Post Number: 565
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.225.115.15
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   

The coordinates for the MAIN GATE of Hanscomb AFB (in the DECIMAL format) are:

42.461724 -71.268445

In Degrees, Minutes & Seconds they are:

42 27' 42.2058" -71 16' 6.4014"

Hanscom Billeting 1/4 mile away from the main gate. Pass through the main gate and turn right on Kirtland Street.

Hope this helps.
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M. Craig Pinsker
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Username: Mcpins

Post Number: 22
Registered: 04-2007
Posted From: 96.253.77.237
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 01:22 pm:   

The way it is displayed on my Garmin is N42 (degree symbol)28.481'
W71 (degree symbol) 15.194'
I hope this helps!
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Danny Hamilton
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Username: Dannyhamilton

Post Number: 563
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.225.115.15
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 03:08 am:   

Dakota, the convert degrees, minutes, seconds to the Lat/Lon decimal format, just go to:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html
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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 417
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   

Leland,
I looked at Mr Pinster's coordinates. I think that he is also using the degree-minute-second process. Do you still have the instructions for Google Earth and how to change the system? Mine is still set up for decimals.

Maybe some Garmin's work with degrees but the POI system does not.

I will send him an email tomorrow and try to explain it. Converting his coordinates using the 60 to 100 rule brings it close.

I agree about the gates. I tried three different gates at Hanscom and found the west one on the north side the best and it appears to be closest to billeting and the PAX area.

Leland, thanks for your work with this and all your practical comments on the board.

Happy Trails!!
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Leland
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Username: Leland

Post Number: 6093
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 98.218.147.237
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 10:31 pm:   

This is a continuing problem that has been described many times in the past. The maps used by the GPS navigation devices have no way of knowing which gates are open at which times or, indeed, if there even are gates at some locations.

The only solution I have come up with is to add the coordinates for the 24/7 gate to the POI list and then suggest that folks use that as a waypoint enroute to the terminal or billeting (or wherever).
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M. Craig Pinsker
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Username: Mcpins

Post Number: 21
Registered: 04-2007
Posted From: 96.253.77.237
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 09:51 pm:   

About Hanscom:
I think this is the problem: The base is big enough to have several gates. Some are closed and some are only open days. If the post were open I bet the GPS would take me to the lodging easily.
The settings I gave will take you as described in on the base web site. You will exit from 95 at exit 31 B and following the road until the sign for Hanscom which has you making a right turn to cross the road (because you can not make a left) and then follow that road which runs into the gate. The coordinates I gave are those of a business about 200 m after you turn onto that road which runs into the gate. I tried using the coordinates at the gate but this took me of 95 at a different exit.
I hope this is more clear than my first post.
Neal's websites are wonderful. I hate to think how much time Neal has donated to all of us. All I can say is thank you very much.
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Jack T. Paxton
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Username: Jpaxton

Post Number: 806
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 24.27.231.67
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   

Dakota Ray/others: I have had great success with those that Leland published. We did Europe last year and they worked like a charm. I recently traded my Lexus for a different model with a nav system (would have stayed with GPS but Lexus made me an offer...) In any event, to input POIs to my vehicle I can visit their website and input addresses, make a couple of clicks and they are automatically sent to the car. My problem with Leland's is separating OCONUS from CONUS. Obviously I am not planning on taking my car overseas. I do want the CONUS POIs. If Neal's are set up like Leland's (.csv) I can probably download them to the Lexus website and get them into my auto. I'll be experimenting and will keep everyone posted. Kudos to both Neal and Leland...what a great job!
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 216
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   

Correction made. Thanks
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Danny Hamilton
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Username: Dannyhamilton

Post Number: 561
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.225.115.15
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 03:46 am:   

Neal, the marker for Ft Riley, KS is about 6 miles north of the installation.

Here are the coordinates for Ft Riley main gate and billeting office:

Ft Riley Main Gate: 39.0438 -96.7722

Ft Riley Billeting Office: 39.0674 -96.7850

Thanks for your hard work and keep on polishing this gem of information for SPATS, Neal!
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Roger Johnson
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Username: Rwjohn6

Post Number: 318
Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 64.12.116.208
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:20 pm:   

Good info we have room reserved at Hanscom for June 11,12,13th

Roger in Fl
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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 415
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:01 pm:   

Hi M. Craig Pinsker--

What Points of interest are you using. Are you using some address published from a web site, Lelands GPS download 6 or above, etc? My Garmin also took me to the wrong gate but it was an easy drive to the left to get to the correct gate.

Lodging was great and I had a good time at the Club.

I don't disagree with you. I was through there using a Garmin in October of 2008 but only had minor problems. I do think that if you use Lelands download, it will take you to the correct gate and also lodging if you add a second location after the gate.

Any other inputs that you can provide will be appreciated by Leland-I think!!

Happy Trails!!!
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M. Craig Pinsker
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Username: Mcpins

Post Number: 20
Registered: 04-2007
Posted From: 96.253.77.237
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:06 pm:   

I don't know if this fits under directions to base but:
I have just been to Hanscom AFB near Boston. Great lodging but GPS units take you to the wrong gate or take you through parts of the base that are closed, even if you mark the location after you get to lodging or a location right outside the gate. My Garmin will not even take you to the proper exit from I-95. I have been told that other GPS units cause the same problem. Here is what I found that works. Go the the following:
N 42 28.418' W 071 15.194'
This is a business on the road to the correct gate. Continuing on the on the same road will take you into the AFB, 100 m from lodging.
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Dakota Ray
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Username: Rhammer

Post Number: 414
Registered: 05-2007
Posted From: 69.62.147.217
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 09:54 pm:   

Jack,

I had only a very minor input into Leland's GPS system and project because I had some coordinates. I do understand the GPS program (I think)!! Used a prototype as I was retiring.

Google Earth is mostly a computer process.

You seem to have some thought process that I am not sure of. Explain more if you can. If you have a computer, you can download and work with Neal's
project and his inputs. Are you trying to share the info into another piece of equipment like a GPS, etc??? If it is into the GPS, a problem would be back to the accuracy which started Leland project.

I do appreciate the work that Neal and Leland did. It is "beyond the call of duty".

THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU!!!
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 214
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:54 pm:   

I am not sure how that would work. I will try to do some research on it to see if it is possible. If we have any experts out there on how to import something from Google Maps into a navigation system they can jump in any time. I would think that each brand of navigation system might have its own requirements.
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Jack T. Paxton
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Username: Jpaxton

Post Number: 804
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 24.27.231.67
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   

Neal: While I have been somewhat preoccupied with business, is what you have prepared somewhat like what Leland has previously set up whereby I can download these to my nav system? If so, I will send you a private email on how it would work with a new car that I have.
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Edgar Inocentes
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Username: Traveler88

Post Number: 521
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.242.132.226
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 07:39 pm:   

Ah, under Space A Travel Links - Es tut mir leid
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John D.
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Username: John_d

Post Number: 4279
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 95.208.80.143
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   

Edgar, it's been there (under Space-A Lodging Links)
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Edgar Inocentes
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Username: Traveler88

Post Number: 519
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.242.132.226
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 07:09 pm:   

Great job Neal! I think this should be included in John D's site.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 211
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 02:28 pm:   

I think that I have it correct now but please look it over. Thanks for the help.
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Patricia Stanton
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Username: Pat_s

Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 173.72.209.150
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 05:51 am:   

Great job! Mistake, Boriquen USCG is currently located in Bayamon, Puerto Rico, it should be in Aquadilla on the NW coast of PR.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 206
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   

Shaw is now in its proper place. Keep looking. It is great to have such a great group to look this project over. I appreciate all the help I can get. It is getting better by the day.
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Bill Ward
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Username: Dualrated2

Post Number: 697
Registered: 08-2003
Posted From: 76.169.178.107
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:26 pm:   

Shaw AFB is actually showing up under California.
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Kenneth
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Username: Keno

Post Number: 45
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 174.107.130.146
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   

Neal,

Shaw AFB Sumter, South Carolina

Thanks for all of the work that you do.

Jill
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 205
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:42 pm:   

Added. Thanks keep them coming.
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Martin V Smith
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Username: Mvsusaf

Post Number: 258
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 72.76.38.134
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   

Picatinny Arsenal NJ. A few miles off Interstate 80.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 203
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   

Corrections made. Keep the corrections and additions coming. The map gets better every day!
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Dave Nosek
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Username: Waterman15

Post Number: 40
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 134.215.253.245
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 03:03 pm:   

Neal great job. Two I noticed missing though are Barksdale AFB LA and Grissom ARB IN which is near Peru Indiana. Also for your information concerning Ft Custer near battle Creek. There is a small BX (shoppete type store) at the Michigan Air Gurad base which is about 2 miles east of Ft Custer. According to the BX manager there are plans to build a new store at Ft Custer as well. Hopefully it will be open in the fall of 2010.
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 202
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   

I have added Ft Leavenworth, Kansas and Ft. Riley, Kansas. Keep the updates coming.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&start=0&num=200&msa=0&msid= 101618117231769545794.00048188e3c1307cb1c62&ll=39.354974,-94.931402&spn=0.018151 ,0.045447&t=h&z=15
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John D.
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Username: John_d

Post Number: 4160
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 193.251.143.17
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 05:50 pm:   

Neal,

I've added both links to the other Space-A Lodging Links available at spacea.net.
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Mike Schukert
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Username: Mike_s

Post Number: 469
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 74.243.3.23
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   

Neal: Add an "atta boy" from me to the others you've received. Glad to hear that you plan to add Lat/Lon coordinates to your base info (I'm still old school!). A suggestion, if only one set of coordinates are provided per base, how about doing so for the installation's 24-hour (always open) gate.
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John D.
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Username: John_d

Post Number: 4151
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 81.253.23.4
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   

Good job Neal,

I'm not sure if it still applies but FYI, Google Maps used to have a 100-pin limit. Also, if you need some Guard locations then compare notes with Merv LeBlanc's Natl Guard List

http://spacea.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Space-A_Travel_Links#Space-A_Lodging _Links
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 163
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   

Thanks for all the pats on the back. I am having fun with this project. I will be putting National Guard training sites on shortly and I think I will be able to put Lats and Lons on for the GPS crew to find the base or lodging location. I appreciate the input I have been getting via E mail. Here is a draft map of locations outside the 48 states. Lets look at it critically and give me some suggestions, additions, and mistakes.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=101618117231769545794.00 0481f32ffbce7538390&ll=38.548165,91.054688&spn=134.79534,360&t=h&z=2
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FHYL
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Username: Fhyl

Post Number: 332
Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 68.68.135.160
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:09 pm:   

Awesome!

Having done similar (for a different purpose), this is quite an impressive resource.

Will send feedback off line.
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Ron Glancy
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Username: Ron_glancy

Post Number: 143
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 98.25.205.162
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   

Neal, this is awesome. Thanks so much for copiling this.
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Charlie S
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Username: Avcm

Post Number: 122
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 76.109.44.174
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   

Thanks Neil
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Joe Joyce
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Username: Joejoyce

Post Number: 147
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 199.224.21.254
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   

Neal, what an ambitious project! It's great! You are to be commended, thanks.
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Melinda Cardarelli
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Username: Jmcard

Post Number: 364
Registered: 06-2007
Posted From: 72.49.218.166
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 03:51 pm:   

Thanks so much for creating the map, Neal! I've bookmarked it and will be using it for summer trip planning!
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Ted Lamb
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Username: Ted_l

Post Number: 1005
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 71.189.7.202
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 03:46 pm:   

Very impressive, Neal!
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neal floyd
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Username: Nfloyd

Post Number: 160
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 03:36 pm:   

I have been working on a map in Google Maps that shows all the locations that have Space A lodging in the 48 states. I am also working on one for the rest of the world(outside the 48 states). I am looking for local knowledge help. If you care to assist look at the google map Military Lodging Locations in The 48 states and provide me feedback on missing locations, mistakes, suggestions. I think that this link will get you to the map.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?cd=2&ie=UTF8&msa=0&ll=67.339861,-81.298828&spn=20 .809592,93.076172&t=h&z=4&msid=101618117231769545794.00048188e3c1307cb1c62 Feedback can be sent to neal@floyds.us

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