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mike~p
Senior Member
Username: In_japan
Post Number: 512
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 67.119.12.41
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 06:33 pm: | |
Tony, not because of SOFA. It appears to be a based on local command security issues. The Army started doing the same at Zama. Some rising star junior JAG Officer tried to do the same and more at Zama and at Hardy Barracks to the extent he wrote a instruction prohibiting retirees using Hardy Barracks, MLCs from using the golf course and active duty and retirees bringing guests to the club at Zama. (The clubs at NAF Atsugi really appreciated that policy change through increased patronage.) A extensive email campaign by members of this board to the the one-star at Zama and the three-star at USFJ finally got things turned around. |
Bob Dart
Senior Member
Username: Bobdart
Post Number: 1487
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 76.29.20.95
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 04:52 pm: | |
Unfortunately, some legal documents leave far too much open for human interpretation, thus inconsistencies. |
Tony Cabrera
Senior Member
Username: Tonyc
Post Number: 1549
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 88.9.192.152
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 12:39 pm: | |
Neal,
I know this topic has been discussed here in the past and also know it's because of SOFA, but I think something similar should happen in Spain and perhaps in other European countries. Even with SOFA, there are some inconsistencies in some countries, like permitting you to sign-in at one location (Naval Base) and not at another (Air Force Base).
Just my $0.02.
Happy travels! |
neal floyd
Advanced Member
Username: Nfloyd
Post Number: 227
Registered: 09-2007
Posted From: 67.233.135.84
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 11:25 am: | |
Marines revise order on retiree guest access in Japan
By David Allen, Stars and Stripes
Online Edition, Tuesday, April 20, 2010
CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa — The Marines have amended a base access order that had prevented military retirees from signing guests onto Marine bases in Japan.
All Department of Defense ID card holders are now allowed to sponsor up to six visitors for a day, Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Douglas Powell said Tuesday.
After receiving several complaints from retired servicemembers, Stars and Stripes reported that the Marine Corps had begun prohibiting retirees from signing friends onto bases April 2.
Marine officials said they merely were enforcing a Marine Corps Bases Japan order in effect since 2003, and that military retirees could sign in only their spouses and children. At the time, Marine officials did not say why retirees had been allowed to sign guests onto bases in the past.
“The base access issue has been under revision for some time,” Powell said Tuesday. “It was brought to our attention in midstream of revising this order that the retirees were restricted concerning who they could sign on.”
“For 20 years I had been able to bring family members and friends onto the base, then, suddenly, with no explanation, that right was taken away,” said retired Marine Capt. Ray Welch, 60. “It left a question in my mind as to what our value is to the Marine community on Okinawa.”
Joe Kozerski, 66, a retired Navy first class petty officer, was pleased by the news that things were back to normal.
“Denying us the privilege was stupid, absurd,” he said in a telephone interview from his video store in Okinawa City. “I’ve been on island since 1983 and always enjoyed taking my friends to dinner on the bases.”
The Marine Corps was the only service to place the base access restriction on retirees.
The order was revised last week, Powell said, adding that more changes in the access order may be forthcoming. |
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