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Phyllis DeLancey
Senior Member
Username: Phyllis

Post Number: 2581
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 99.97.181.160
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:20 pm:   

Tim, we rented from Hertz in Oct. when we came back from S&S to get to Andrews. There is a man who works for them that will give you excellent directions, not the folks in the office, he is one of the drivers. It took us just about 2 hours. We left Dover around 8 a m and missed traffic all the way. It is a nice drive, will take you over the bridge at Annapolis. If you aren't pused for time, stop and visit the acadamy for a little while.
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John D.
Moderator
Username: John_d

Post Number: 4001
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 95.208.80.143
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   

Got a little off topic from the Ground Transportation subject. Time to get back on subject :-)
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Jack T. Paxton
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Username: Jpaxton

Post Number: 781
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 24.27.231.67
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   

JEB: Good for you and great report. A number of years ago a friend and I on a golfing junket to Hawaii flew the East-to-West med-evac route from MacDill-to-Scott-to-Travis route. This was prior to the Gulf War and combat casualties. Still in all, the care the troops received on our old C-9 flight was great. Glad to hear it is continuing. To my way of thinking it would be an honor to fly with today's wounded or, if need be, with our deceased Heroes. As a casualty assistance officer I buried 14 of these Heroes from 1966 to my retirement in 1969 and accompanying them home today would be an honor.
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JEB
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Username: Wingrider

Post Number: 461
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 65.4.225.113
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   

As far as the concerns for the medivac flight....it was a real eye opener for me. My brother and I took one from Ramstein to Andrews last year. It was out of Travis and took PAX, 1 immediately before it was from Jackson and took none.

There were walking wounded and severly wounded on our aircraft. I was amazed at the care they got and they way they were treated. The SPATs remained seated for the most part although we were in some added seats near the back of the aircraft, separate from the patients. But to watch those dedicated Doctors and Nurses working with and waiting on those patients was something else. We also watched as 1 wounded white guy stayed at his black buddy's side the whole way home. When it came time to feed the patients the white guy told the Doctors he would take care of his buddy and we watched as he fed him. I'll NEVER forget that! No race problems there, just two soldiers who were Brothers at Arms. Since there was plenty of left over food, the 10 or so Spats were also offered food by the crew, a very nice gesture on their part.

I wouldn't hesitate to take another medivac flight.
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Lester Green
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Username: Rtgreen5

Post Number: 257
Registered: 03-2007
Posted From: 69.143.222.224
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   

Tim: Of course, I respect your concerns about flying on Medivac flights, but I have flown on many of them, and it is a no nonsense affair as the professional staff on board would not tolerate any improper conduct while they are ministering to the wounded. If they had any such concern that PAX would be interfering with the care of the wounded, the crew would take no PAX--which frequently does occur. Most of the time, since the C-17 is a large aircraft, we have been seated away from the wounded who were attended to at the other end of the aircraft. So if the medical crew make the decision to take Space A PAX, I would not be concerned about taking the flight if it were going in my direction.

The only downside of the medivac flights is that they usually stop at numerous locations enroute where patients are taken off the aircraft for various reasons, either for specialized treatment or to be at a facility closer to their families. These stops may lead to delays in route or possibly a change in itinerary. But these issues go along with flying Space A on any flight that you chose, as we have seen in the numerous trip reports filed on this web site.
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DeeDee Clarke
Senior Member
Username: Deedee

Post Number: 539
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 72.181.14.46
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:13 pm:   

Tim - If you take the leg from Andrews to Jackson, there is the possibility it will go from Andrews to San Antonio and then to Jackson. The San Antonio stop would be if they have burn patients that need to be transported to BAMC. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case this would make you feel uncomfortable.
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Phil Doubleman
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Username: Phil

Post Number: 1445
Registered: 08-2005
Posted From: 68.35.71.161
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:59 pm:   

re "and there was rec stand by on board laughing and taking photos"

Tim, that does not occur now and if it should, I'm sure that someone would get it stopped immediately.

I've flown on a couple of med evac flights and have seen nothing but respect and pride being displayed for our wounded warriors.

I think that you're depriving yourself of the privilege of associating with our wounded warriors and showing them that you are proud of what they have sacrificed for us.

And of course, you are depriving yourself of a free flight.
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tim duncan
Intermediate Member
Username: Duncanta

Post Number: 149
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 99.73.181.2
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:20 am:   

John G, I just would not feel good flying on a rec flight for me on a plane with hurt worriors. John R good information thanks. I was on a C141 out of bogota hurt heading to panama and there was rec stand by on board laughing and taking photos not a good deal. Thanks for the update however. Tim
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John G
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Username: Windjammer_john

Post Number: 264
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 70.140.105.183
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 01:45 am:   

Tim I was able to fly on the med evac from Ramstien to Andrews last year, unless they have changed allowing space a on that leg to Andrews.
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Irwin Rovner
Advanced Member
Username: Irovner

Post Number: 371
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 66.32.83.19
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 09:38 pm:   

I got a 1-way rental from Hertz. It's about 2 and a half hour drive -- if you don't get lost in the Delaware back country and you don't get into DC rush hour traffic.

However, the Hertz office in Dover has limited hours. They close at 1700 weekdays and 1200 Saturday and closed Sunday. There's no service available for anything when they are closed. And sometimes they don't have the car you want. Best if you reserve the car on their webpage -- which may obligate them to give you a car if they don't have a car you ordered -- like if they are out of economy cars, they may give you an up-grade at the same price. Search the archive for this page for info on discounts codes. Some folks have reported that Hertz sometimes picks up at the Pax terminal and drives you to the office. Not on the Saturday morning we got our rental. We took a cab, about $20 ride.
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John R Garrison
Senior Member
Username: Majorg

Post Number: 2344
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 208.81.157.86
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 07:46 pm:   

Tim:

I assume from your title, you meant to ask how to get from Dover to Andrews.

JohnD's SpaceA Pages have the answer you want under CONUS Locations, Dover, ...How Do I...?

http://spacea.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Dover_AFB

Happy travels, John
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tim duncan
Intermediate Member
Username: Duncanta

Post Number: 148
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 99.73.181.2
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   

Planning to return from Germany to Dover to catch the Andrews flight down to Jackson. Whats the best way to get from Dover to Jackson. I understand the Germany to Andrews flight has injured pax so you cant fly that leg.

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